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Vincent Gaines
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Posted - 2007.04.18 17:33:00 -
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Edited by: Vincent Gaines on 18/04/2007 17:29:41
bye!
leaving over the fact that you can't war dec half of Eve is just....pointless.
if you want pew pew everyone go to 0.0
There are so many roving gangs that go through 0.0 and low sec I cringe everytime I see people whine about blobs.
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Vincent Gaines
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Posted - 2007.04.18 17:54:00 -
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 Originally by: Azerrad InExile
What Privateers really was in my mind was a way to log on and find a fight with minimal hassle. With a drastic reduction in the number of wars that can reasonably be declared, that is being heavily nerfed.
It is really akin to the arguements about removing instas from the game... travel time is generally though to take to long. Likewise, finding a decent fight in EVE takes too long. Privateers was an attempt at a solution to that.
What's stopping you from fighting each other? no need to hunt for targets.
This is an excuse. If you want PvP make 2 corps and duke it out. Make 3 or 4 and you get even more pew-pew.
this talk about anti-pos wars... if you're looking for a fight and not teritory you'll never touch a POS.
Roving gangs are effective and common, fun, and effective in 0.0
You want a fight with no hassle, then fight each other... other corps do it when bored all the time.
Privateers took a good idea too far. When you all started dec'cing corps left and right for "contracts" at no costs but the war fee, what was once an annoyance (the cheap cost of war) was brought to the forefront to CCP's attention.
The war cost was a fix that was on the backburner until it became a huge problem... you all brought this about much sooner than if you had shown restraint.
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Vincent Gaines
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Posted - 2007.04.18 18:10:00 -
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Originally by: Azerrad InExile
(Privateers also functions as a Merc alliance in a way, they will declare war on anyone you wish if you pay the war dec fee for them).
That's one of the problems. a "merc corp" that will fight with the strength of an alliance against anyone (including 10-man corps) for a very small fee.
It's a giant I-win button for corps that would otherwise have to either pay a merc corp a sizable fee or actually do the fighting themselves.
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Vincent Gaines
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Posted - 2007.04.18 18:47:00 -
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Edited by: Vincent Gaines on 18/04/2007 18:43:44
Originally by: Roue
Some of the posts in here just amaze me. It's obvious enough of you detest privateer alliance. Things are getting changed, don't you fret now. Eve will become just real life, void of personal responsibility. I see the approach of EVE liability lawyers soon on the horizon.
Yes we war dec'd tens of thousands of people. It amazes me that our 700 vs I think the estimate was 40,000 puts us as the bad guys. How often I sat in systems with a dozen enemies, all alone, and killed them 1 by 1 as they undocked.
It doesn't matter. I've spent 3 years convincing dozens and dozens of people to join EVE, helped them find their niche, been a part of things grand and small. In the end it's changed, it's becoming another animal for another type of customer. This has happened before and it will happen again in this game and many others.
Shame I get no respect at all for what I've done. Bring a hundred people to a game to enrich it and support it. And be condemned for blowing up pixels that someone else was too lazy and careless to protect.
Well at least I know I follow and not precede much of the community I knew in leaving.
an alliance declaring war on a 10 man noob corp just for a couple more targets and no reason is low, but not bad in eve. doing it several times begins to make you look bad.
Camping 4-4 and other hubs, only to pop people while in blackscreen is low.
camping mission hubs, known deadspace gates, sitting on gates for hours waiting to pounce on anything that comes through (see the ibis kill by another PVTR in this very thread) is low.
And again, none of these are uncommon in eve. The problem is the scale in which it was done.
The problem was that war costs were next to nothing. You knew this, as did the founders of PVTR, I remember when it was founded that it was one of the reasons it was done.
War costs were bound to change eventually, the issue was brought up even before privateers was created.
The thing is that the Privateers made the flaw very apparent and to the forefront. It was to the point that PVTR was war-dec'ing almost on a whim.
I liked the idea when it was first presented. Then I began to see the camping, the small corp decs that other merc corps would usually ignore, but when you all dec'd Eve Uni it became apparent that you weren't looking for PvP but just a way to rack up kills.
0.0 is the 'endgame' and where you can go to ALWAYS get a fight.
you can fight each other to your heart's content.
you can also fight the same 70+ corps/alliance and even cnotinue the same practice.
The difference is that there's a stacking penalty. Just as with WCS and every other aspect of the game that was abused and taken to extremes.
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Vincent Gaines
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Posted - 2007.04.20 21:33:00 -
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Originally by: VinceNoir
Vincent, that chick in your sig has a big ******* forehead.
it's a fivehead.
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